VeganMoFO
For all of us who would rather raise our whisks and spatulas than write a novel, VeganMo(nth of)Fo(od)! For the month of November, we will write about food as much as we can. As if we weren’t doing that already. The rules are pretty loose, in fact, there are no rules. But we did come up with a bunch of ideas to inspire us on the PPK forums, and then yesterday they crashed. Fortunately, Katie wrote some out on her blog before black Thursday happened.
My first contribution is a Flickr group I set up so that all of our food porn, or whatever, can be in one place and we can add it to our RSS feeds if we so desire. So go join that.
Here is a partial list of participants, if you don’t see yourself here, let me know and I will add you.
It Was A Dark And Stormy Night
Kittee: Cake Maker To The Stars
What The Hell Does A Pink Haired Girl Eat?
The Place I Like Best In This World Is The kitchen
So What Do Vegetarians Eat Anyway?
Vegan Vanguard: Charging Ahead Of The Mainstream
Happy writing! Or, if you prefer, miserable writing! Just so long as you’re writing.
Edited to add: I’m getting a lot of email asking if you can join if you’re not vegan/joining late/not usually writing about food. The answer is yes! If you’re writing about vegan food or taking photos of vegan food or whatever you are doing, you can join. Especially the people who aren’t vegan but intend to try it out this month. Sorry if I’m not answering all the email personally, I’m trying but it’s just too much!
November 2nd, 2007 at 1:29 pm
I don’t see myself her!
November 2nd, 2007 at 1:38 pm
I added you!
November 2nd, 2007 at 1:56 pm
I am doing it too.
November 2nd, 2007 at 1:57 pm
I am starting a blog just for this. I’ll post the link when it’s more respectable looking (not that it would be hard to figure out).
November 2nd, 2007 at 2:11 pm
Added you Joni!
FYI: I just found everyone by doing a google blogsearch for veganmofo, so if you weren’t added you didn’t come up. It wasn’t because I hate you.
November 2nd, 2007 at 2:26 pm
I’m kind of new to the food blog thing, but this might be just the thing I need to keep me from slacking off. I’m in.
November 2nd, 2007 at 2:31 pm
you hate us omg!
November 2nd, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Ok, I have a vegan blog now, just like everyone else in the world. It’s possible that I will forget all about it in a week like I do most projects, but the url is just strawberryrock.wordpress.com.
November 2nd, 2007 at 3:02 pm
Wait, didn’t I just do this? A little thing called the Veganomicon I think it was called….
November 2nd, 2007 at 3:03 pm
(p.s. that anonymous was me Terry, she who cannot log into a blog. sigh)
November 2nd, 2007 at 3:23 pm
It’s good to have goals. I’ll do my best.
www.foodsnobberyhobbery.blogspot.com
November 2nd, 2007 at 3:26 pm
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:30 pm
Celine, I hate you.
Terry, I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Everyone else, I’ll add you!
November 2nd, 2007 at 3:45 pm
okay, you just stole an hour of my life, or paid work hour away - my post it up : )
November 2nd, 2007 at 4:03 pm
I will do this, but can’t start till tomorrow… add me please!
November 2nd, 2007 at 4:06 pm
Count me in!
November 2nd, 2007 at 4:29 pm
Hm, maybe instead of writing about food, I’ll make November my Vegan Month of Food by actually being vegan for a month (I’m vegetarian and semi-moving-toward vegan now). Minus the cheese I ate for lunch yesterday and today, prior to hearing about this MOFO thing.
November 2nd, 2007 at 4:33 pm
Alexis, with all this great vegan foodness happening, it seems like pretty good timing for it. Good luck and godspeed!
November 2nd, 2007 at 4:38 pm
I will happily do my best to contribute via my blog.
November 2nd, 2007 at 4:42 pm
we’re in too! shae keeps wanting to learn how to cook, so we’re going to do this as a team. tonight we’re making vcon chickpea cutlets.
http://vegankid.blogspot.com/
November 2nd, 2007 at 4:59 pm
I started a blog just to do VeganMoFo:
http://veganpitbull.blogspot.com/
November 2nd, 2007 at 5:09 pm
Due to the coma of the PPK boards, I did too!
http://vegmofo.blogspot.com/
November 2nd, 2007 at 5:28 pm
Oh! I just started an unofficial NaNoWriMo, so I’m now going to do this, too. Yay for vegan food!
November 2nd, 2007 at 6:00 pm
I actually love having this list with everyones blog addresses on it too! So much easier than going through profiles! You guys have great blogs and I will do my best to check out what you are blogging about and leave comments!! Go VeganMoFo.
November 2nd, 2007 at 6:33 pm
Mine’s not primarily a food blog, but I’m in anyway!
November 2nd, 2007 at 6:46 pm
I’m in! http://bryophyte.livejournal.com/
Up til now its been non-food based so, feel free to only read from now on!
I’ve also only posted like 15 times in the last year and a half.
November 2nd, 2007 at 7:19 pm
[…] me. It doesn’t look like like I’ll be able to write a novel, but I should have time for VeganMoFo. A girl’s gotta eat, […]
November 2nd, 2007 at 7:29 pm
I’m in, I’m in. If it’s ok that I’m starting 2 days late…
November 2nd, 2007 at 7:56 pm
[…] What the hell, another thing to participate in this month. But only because I’m already a VeganMoFo participant and will be doing it anyway. Does this post count for […]
November 2nd, 2007 at 7:57 pm
[…] 1st, 2007 by ritesofpassage So my first official VeganMoFo post isn’t all whiny, and because somebody somewhere asked about it, here’s my all-time […]
November 2nd, 2007 at 7:57 pm
I have been trying to comment on here for the past couple of hours, but it won’t let me! Sorry if the comment has been showing up for you but not me.
But I want to be part of Vegan MoFo!
November 2nd, 2007 at 8:12 pm
Woo! I’m on a list!
November 2nd, 2007 at 8:25 pm
I’ll be in on this! -> http://kindkitchen.wordpress.com/
November 2nd, 2007 at 8:31 pm
I’m not a food blogger, but I’m doin’ it anyway!
http://babyinbroad.blogspot.com
November 2nd, 2007 at 8:33 pm
VeganMoFo…
This month is VeganMoFo,the Vegan Month of Food. […]…
November 2nd, 2007 at 8:35 pm
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November 2nd, 2007 at 10:09 pm
[…] honor of Washoe and VeganMoFo, I am posting a list of Washoe’s favorite foods: Oatmeal with onions, pumpkin pudding, split […]
November 2nd, 2007 at 10:24 pm
ok. i’m in too.
http://veganhodgepodge.wordpress.com/
thanks for the vision and inspiration!
happy blogging everyone.
November 2nd, 2007 at 11:18 pm
I started this blog last month. It’s kind of an all encompassing blog of food, restaurants, cookbooks, etc. I’d love it you added it to the list!
November 2nd, 2007 at 11:19 pm
Forogt to put in the link!!!
I started this blog last month. It’s kind of an all encompassing blog of food, restaurants, cookbooks, etc. I’d love it you added it to the list!
http://veganguineapig.blogspot.com/
November 2nd, 2007 at 11:37 pm
Wow, the list has grown! This is exciting.
November 3rd, 2007 at 12:06 am
Isa: I knew it!
November 3rd, 2007 at 12:13 am
I just started my blog a week or so ago this is perfect starter.
November 3rd, 2007 at 1:24 am
Hey, now that I know what VeganMoFo is… sign me up, please! I’ll even post whilst on “vacation” to show how dedicated I am.
xo
November 3rd, 2007 at 1:45 am
Hey! Cool! I always post about vegan food anyway except when I get sidetracked and post about my kids or other things…
Add me, add me. I’ll figure out the banner and all tomorrow since I’m too tired right now…
November 3rd, 2007 at 9:16 am
Please add me. I’m trying to cook like crazy this month…..and I have a new cookbook that I’m trying out. Can’t remember the name of it!
November 3rd, 2007 at 10:10 am
Oh, me too! I have been slacking on the blog but now I will be better. Plus I just got my veganomicon.
http://piepet.blogspot.com
November 3rd, 2007 at 11:13 am
me:
http://veganroadtrip.blogspot.com
November 3rd, 2007 at 12:28 pm
i’m definitely in.
November 3rd, 2007 at 12:46 pm
Me too! I’m glad I finally spent the time to set it up semi-decently. FOOD: http://www.clevernettle.com/kitchen
November 3rd, 2007 at 12:58 pm
add my blog! its a vegan cooking and baking blog with yummy recipes..thanks!
November 3rd, 2007 at 12:59 pm
oh, the website didnt show up. here it is! http://www.nowheyjose.com
November 3rd, 2007 at 2:12 pm
I’m going to give it a try. It will be a brand spankin’ new blog so nobody go there until at least the 15th of the month when it will look better! I needed a good reason to start a blog and this is it.
http://thekitchendebate.blogspot.com/
November 3rd, 2007 at 5:39 pm
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November 3rd, 2007 at 6:45 pm
Hah, this should get me to actually write in the food blog I started. I’m in!
http://plantsplantsrevolution.blogspot.com
November 3rd, 2007 at 7:20 pm
Okay, okay, I’m in. I don’t have a fancy camera, though.
November 3rd, 2007 at 9:00 pm
this is going to be like the woodstock of veganism. how many cookbooks will be conceived this month and what is a regular gestation period?
November 3rd, 2007 at 9:39 pm
I normally don’t post about food, and this evening’s post shows you why. Usually we’re tired and make something simple, or a lot of simple somethings. We don’t like the convenience foods that exist for our dining pleasure. So I buy cookbooks and read the food blogs to find easy and fast meals that we will love. My family’s current favorite for both fast and easy is the peanut sauce with seitan and udon noodles in VWAV. Another awesome one, should you own Lorna Sass’ Short-Cut Vegetarian, is chickpea curry. Anyway, in the spirit of vegan mofo, I’m posting tonight’s dinner.
November 4th, 2007 at 12:17 am
I finally got my asparagus into gear, and created a blog! It was the VeganMOFO that finally did the trick, and the ppkisdownsupportgroup that helped me name the beast.
I am pleased to announce……
www.ParsnipParsimony.wordpress.com
???,
Susie Tofu Monster
(I will get it better as the next few days go by, its only a couple hours old right now)
November 4th, 2007 at 2:19 am
Me too, me too! I’m doing VeganMoFo. Pretty please will you add me to the list?
Thx muchly
November 4th, 2007 at 5:09 am
count me in, please!
November 4th, 2007 at 8:03 am
Count me in too, although late!
November 4th, 2007 at 8:10 am
[…] (and buy her new zine when you’re there!) A list of participating blogs can be found at Isa’s (of the PPK) blog. A bunch of people over at the PPK forums thought it would be a good idea to have VeganMoFo instead […]
November 4th, 2007 at 10:36 am
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November 4th, 2007 at 10:58 am
I’m in too!!!
Please add me to the list.
November 4th, 2007 at 11:47 am
what the hell. this’ll be the kick in the pants i need.
(so many unwritten flog entries i’ve been meaning to write)
supercarrotcake.livejournal.com
November 4th, 2007 at 3:44 pm
[…] I’ve decided to do the Vegan Month of Food thing. I’ve actually posted every day this month, although you can’t really tell […]
November 4th, 2007 at 4:16 pm
I am joining late!
Thanks for kicking us Isa.
November 4th, 2007 at 7:40 pm
Joining late too! Thanks for adding me!
November 4th, 2007 at 8:18 pm
Count me in. I’ll try to catch up from the first 3 days of the month
November 4th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
I’ve been participating! But I called it VegMoFo because I think it looks better, though I absolutely agree that it should be pronounced VeganMoFo. I’ll change it now though since VeganMoFo has taken the world by storm.
November 4th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
OK, what the heck - count me in. I made the meal I talked about, and I think others would like it.
November 4th, 2007 at 11:44 pm
Okay, I’ll add all you new people in the morning. I’m feeling laaazy.
November 5th, 2007 at 12:34 am
OK, so please add me after all. I promise to write about more than just life around here in Wisconsin. Like dinner here in Wisconsin….
http://wingraclaire.livejournal.com/
November 5th, 2007 at 12:48 am
Ok, I’m in on Mofo. Expect more than my normal 4 posts, but not a post everyday.
November 5th, 2007 at 3:53 am
Sign me on up. If I’m too busy to write a novel this month, I can at least commit to blogging once a day. Shanks!
http://textualbulldog.blogspot.com/
November 5th, 2007 at 7:26 am
I’m all about this mofo.
http://veganman.net
November 5th, 2007 at 9:15 am
Hmm, I thought that I left a comment too. Maybe not. Well, I’m in!
http://2eatingwell.blogspot.com
November 5th, 2007 at 9:48 am
I’m coming to this late, but definitely participating. It would be great if you could add me.
November 5th, 2007 at 11:09 am
You may as well count me in, too.
November 5th, 2007 at 11:10 am
I’d love to participate as well!
November 5th, 2007 at 11:10 am
Hmm, it didn’t show the url. Let me try again.
http://veggiesue.blogspot.com/
November 5th, 2007 at 12:09 pm
Thanks so much for adding my blog! I will now spend the entire day reading everyone else’s blogs. A perfect Monday.
November 5th, 2007 at 12:31 pm
I?m in too!
Please add me to the list.
so what do vegetarians eat anyway?
http://sowhatdoesavegetarianeat.blogspot.com/
November 5th, 2007 at 12:56 pm
I’m late, but I’d like to participate.
November 5th, 2007 at 3:47 pm
I joined in. Would like to be on the list, please. Thank you!
November 5th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
I’ve been foodporning every day, so I guess I should probably join up. Yarrr…
November 5th, 2007 at 8:34 pm
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November 5th, 2007 at 11:32 pm
I have no kitchen, but I’ll give it a shot.
November 6th, 2007 at 2:50 am
[…] he liked vegetarian food, but it has to have taste. Well, duh! We gotta send him the blogroll for VeganMoFo. It’s a Different World than where he’s coming […]
November 6th, 2007 at 5:03 am
Hi, Isa! Please add me to the list.
http://vegan-vanguard.blogspot.com/
November 6th, 2007 at 1:43 pm
I’d like to be added to the list, please! Thanks!
November 6th, 2007 at 4:48 pm
Lovely Concept.. I am a complete vegeterian and would like to join VeganMoFo
My Blog: http://siri-corner.blogspot.com
Thanks
- Siri
November 6th, 2007 at 5:00 pm
Hey,
I would love to join. I had a psycho on my ass for a few months so I stopped writing on my blog for a few months. I am not back to it and this sounds like the perfect opportunity to get started and spread the word!
My blog is cheezyvegan.blogspot.com
Thanks!
Isa and Terry I love your new cookbook, gorgeous job!
November 6th, 2007 at 5:02 pm
Hey,
I would love to join. I had a psycho on my ass for a few months so I stopped writing on my blog. I am now back to it and this sounds like the perfect opportunity to get started and spread the word!
My blog is cheezyvegan.blogspot.com
Thanks!
Isa and Terry I love your new cookbook, gorgeous job!
I should proof read!
November 6th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
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November 6th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
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November 7th, 2007 at 12:59 am
Okay, I am new to trialing out veganism, very new. Took a vegan week last week for world vegan day, and my husband liked the vegan diet so much that he declared our household vegan. Anywho, I suppose I am not full fledged yet, but will only be blogging vegan and would love to join in!
November 7th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
I joined a little late, but you can add me to the list.
November 8th, 2007 at 2:21 am
We want to be a part of this! I just added the group on flickr and uploaded a bunch of pictures. Can we be on the list as well?
Thank you!
November 8th, 2007 at 9:39 am
I would like to join as well (better late than never). I am adding the Vegan Mofo logo to my blog as we speak. www.vegandad.blogspot.com
November 8th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
I have a vegan blog not listed, It’s Easy Being Vegan! I’ll try to write more food posts this month.
November 8th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
Oops…I made have entered the wrong web address. Here it is:
http://vegangirlnextdoor.wordpress.com/
November 9th, 2007 at 2:12 pm
ADD ME!
I take photos and post DAILY
http://happyherbivore.blogspot.com/
November 9th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
I guess you could add me to the Vegan MoFo thing… though it’s in french and it wasn’t a food blog in the beginning…
http://www.eveetjohnnylove.blogspot.com/
But I’m doing what I can to spread the word about veganism .
and I so love you all at the PostPunkKitchen forum
and I try to read all your blogs…
November 9th, 2007 at 6:08 pm
I’m jumping on the VeganMoFo bandwagon as well
http://baliwhat.wordpress.com
November 10th, 2007 at 8:18 am
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November 10th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
I’m a week late, but I want in! I need something to get my lazy ass back blogging again.
http://theflyingvegan.blogspot.com/
November 11th, 2007 at 2:00 pm
[…] at Bottle and Ball, Bottle hates on celery as part of Vegan MoFo. As much as I try to love all the little flowers, I too hate celery — the strings! the […]
November 12th, 2007 at 1:36 am
I’m in
http://veganmother.blogspot.com
November 12th, 2007 at 2:15 pm
late as always, but I made one
http://haplessvegan.blogspot.com/
November 12th, 2007 at 5:52 pm
count this vegan in:
http://themidwestvegan.blogspot.com
November 12th, 2007 at 9:15 pm
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November 13th, 2007 at 2:05 pm
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November 14th, 2007 at 1:11 am
[…] a follow-up to this post and also as a contribution to Vegan MoFo I present another vegan Thanksgiving menu. This one is from the Triangle Vegetarian Society. Fall […]
November 14th, 2007 at 3:43 am
ooh! I just started a blog! can I jump in the list and proceed to get uber-creative with my vegan thought for the next 17 days?
November 14th, 2007 at 10:26 am
[…] just found out that November is Vegan MOFO (Vegan Month of Food), which is great because I wanted to share some recipes anyway. Today, I want […]
November 14th, 2007 at 10:28 am
This is awesome. I just started participating on the Deep Roots blog.
November 14th, 2007 at 10:47 pm
What fun! Count us in!
November 15th, 2007 at 1:09 am
[…] Veganomicon So… how’s it going? Quite clearly I have been doing the opposite of Vegan Mofo this month. But alas, I am here and I have pictures and food and a survey, courtesy of our dear […]
November 17th, 2007 at 5:51 am
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November 18th, 2007 at 5:59 pm
Can I join for the rest of the month? My blog posts from 11/01-11/17 are mostly but not entirely vegan.
November 20th, 2007 at 9:40 am
I found out about this rather late in the game, but I’ve been making Vegan MoFo posts for the past several days.
September 6th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
I’d love to participate in this; please add me to the list!
September 7th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
I’m in! You can add me to the ever-growing list. This will hopefully make me a better blogger.
September 9th, 2008 at 9:29 am
I’m in!
http://cuppapixie.blogspot.com
September 10th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
I’d like to join. Please add me to the list. Thanks!
September 13th, 2008 at 10:55 am
I would love to be added. I need a project like this to break in my new kitchen!
September 16th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
[…] Last year we didn’t come up with strict guidelines for how often we wrote, but I think the idea is to shoot for every weekday, or about 20 times in the month. Don’t forget to tag your stuff “veganmofo” and you can use the VeganMoFo banner (^up there) on your mofo posts. If you’d like inspiration or would just like to whine about how hard it is, check out the MoFo forum on the PPK message boards. […]
September 18th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Hell ya, I wana do VeganMoFo! For sure, please add me.
September 19th, 2008 at 1:23 am
[…] me catch up with things I meant to post ages ago and keeping me on track with my posts. Isa at PPK has a growing list of other people participating in Vegan […]
September 27th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
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September 28th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Ooh, great idea! Please add me
October 1st, 2008 at 12:06 am
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October 1st, 2008 at 6:50 am
I’m gonna try this thing out as well, so if you could please add me, I’d appreciate.
Yeah That “Vegan” Shit
Thanks!
October 1st, 2008 at 10:37 pm
[…] Then I remembered: Not only is October the official World Vegetarian Month, it’s also the Vegan MOFO (Month of Food)! This is the 31-day period in which vegan food bloggers worldwide pledge to blog […]
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:09 am
Even librarians can be vegan…I wrote this up throughout the summer, I have been visiting too many people totally unprepared to host a vegan. Here is a how-to guide for everyone.
Be prepared for a bit of sarcasm- just to warn you.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:20 am
can i be added? http://lemonsbythesea.blogspot.com/
October 4th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
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October 8th, 2008 at 8:32 am
hey,
my blog is at the bottom of the comments, bu not in the list of participants. Add me! Add me!
October 8th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
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October 8th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
This is a cool idea!
October 8th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
http://michiganvegan.livejournal.com
October 30th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
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November 18th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Better late than never!
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:50 pm
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April 30th, 2009 at 10:20 am
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July 26th, 2009 at 3:09 am
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October 1st, 2009 at 10:11 pm
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October 5th, 2009 at 12:36 am
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October 7th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Go Go Go Vegan Mo Fo 3 !!!!!!!!
February 18th, 2010 at 7:15 am
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March 13th, 2010 at 3:05 am
I think diferrent because my family use another product.But next kitchen productsI will think of this as Kitchen productsthat you present.Appreciate!!!